Punta Mita Golf Course
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BackPacker284249
Canton, MA11 bidrag
1,0 av 5 bobler
feb. 2024 • Par
The title says it all. They advertise a price of $300, which is already expensive for these courses (Bahia and Pacifico). Then you arrive and they tell you it is $380 with service fees and taxes. They are charging you an extra 26% in service fee and taxes. I can understand the taxes (assuming they are legitimate) as they don’t have control over that. But to charge another 10% on service fees feels low brow. The manager told me it was for the staff. Did they not pay the staff before when there wasn’t a service fee?

My question is: How does the owner of a liquor store pay its employees without a service fee? Can you imagine the manager for the last 40 years saying “Sorry employees, we aren’t able to pay you again this year, as the price of our goods only covers the cost of the liquor, and other overhead of the business. Maybe next year we can consider a special service fee to tack onto the price (but not the actual price) that will allow you to be paid for your work..”.

Let me try this another way: What does the $300 cover? Does the $300 only cover the land of the golf course without any maintenance or staff? Without the charge, would I just be paying $300 to aimlessly drive in a cart around a field of uncut grass without fairways or greens? Doesn’t “the price” of $300 already include a beautifully manicured course with some views of water and a cart? It clearly takes people to run a golf course. And people are usually one of the largest expenses in a service business, which you then incorporate into the price. It is the continuous SERVICE to the golf course prior to your arrival that you are paying for when you golf anywhere.

To charge an extra fee, on top of the price of $300, feels unethical. I’ve played here for 10 years straight, but don’t quite remember this sort of gouging. Perhaps the management thinks people are dumb sheep, who won’t realize that every price in history charged by a service business included THE SERVICE. Not adding it to the original price is deceptive and should be banned. They basically took the same tact as a restaurant adding a service fee for people who don’t tip and actually added it to a product where no one is actually providing a service in real time. Is anyone helping me read the greens or find my ball? That would be an additional service worth a fee. Ah yes, that is called a caddy and you pay a distinct fee for one, and they don’t charge an extra service fee.

You might think, well they need to pay the servers in the restaurant and the people in the golf shop and that is what this service fee is for, as the manager claimed. Two points on that:

1. The servers in the small bar/restaurant: They also add a service charge to the bill. And from what I can tell by the price of food and drinks, they don’t sell it anywhere near “cost”. So they must already be adding in some fee for paying people, electricity, rent, etc. That argument doesn’t hold up. The service fee is just more profit for the Four Seasons mgmt, nothing more.

2. The people at the pro shop: There were 6 people working in a pro shop that was 10’ x 40’. They barely could all fit in this small shop. The price of a polo was >$100, the cost is well below the prices. I didn’t check, but they probably add a service fee to the polo shirt bill as well, which is troubling since the customer service in this shop is severely lacking. These people, over the past 10 years, have always seemed miserable, while everyone else outside the shop has been so friendly. I don’t think anyone of these people play golf or enjoy this job. I think that makes it even harder to pay a service fee for such misery. The price of the golf and apparel are more than enough revenue to pay the staff, the service fee is just more profit for the Four Seasons. They can tell you they are using the service fee for the people, but they already could pay the people with the profit they were making, this is all just extra.

I’ll add, for those reading that think I just can’t afford it, that I can certainly afford this fee. But I draw a line at gouging clients and misrepresentations of prices. I spoke to the manager who didn’t see anything wrong with the way they falsely market this fee. I chose not to play this year and instead invested the $800 in a few very nice meals.

FYI. The Four Seasons Resort owns this golf course. It is a high quality establishment. I’m a big fan of Aramara and Bahia, which are excellent restaurants at the hotel. This golf experience and views of the Pacific Ocean are good and worth a premium, but not worth ~$380. They know that it’s not worth $380, and that is why they hide the total cost and instead jerk you around by non transparent pricing policies. Simple solutions: Advertise the $380 and I’m far more likely to pay.

If you go there, tell the mgmt to clean up the pricing. Make sure you are heard. If enough people talk to mgmt and walk away loudly, they will get it. I’m sure of it.
Skrevet 14. februar 2024
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pingui
Mexico City, Mexico10 bidrag
5,0 av 5 bobler
jul. 2022 • Alene
Excelente campo de golf hermoso lugar, ubicado en muy buena ubicación una atención muy buena, todo estuvo super bien.
Recomendable
Skrevet 15. juli 2022
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Brianking22
Boise, ID116 bidrag
5,0 av 5 bobler
apr. 2022 • Venner
This is a great golf course. Great layout. Beautiful, super friendly staff, food an drinks are perfect. One of my favorite places on the planet.
Skrevet 19. juni 2022
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Kevin T
Santa Cruz, CA58 bidrag
5,0 av 5 bobler
mar. 2022 • Familie
If your a golfer. You must play the Pacifico course at the 4 Seasons ( amazing) John McIntyre the director of golf was in the pro shop when we were checking in,there was a mix up. He fixed it and gave us an earlier time as we showed up 2 hours Earlier because we were so excited to play this course . Great day Great staff great course and the views. (Wow). Big Boom.
Skrevet 31. mars 2022
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805Ian
San Diego, California20 bidrag
2,0 av 5 bobler
nov. 2020
As a scratch golfer I have played courses all around the world. The hardest thing to do in golf for a greenskeeper is to have nice greens in a humid climate next to the ocean. I was disappointed at the quality of the greens for what the fee was. I would not recommend paying the money to play the course
Skrevet 29. november 2020
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stefanl70
Neuburg, Tyskland144 bidrag
4,0 av 5 bobler
feb. 2020
Its is all about the island hole in the Pacific. There are great holes along the beach on both courses. Both courses are in good shape. Only on both courses the inland holes are only average. They are basic resort golf.
Skrevet 19. februar 2020
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Thomas D
Chicago, IL94 bidrag
4,0 av 5 bobler
feb. 2020 • Par
Pacifico is a fair and well-kept up course. It I wide and forgiving on most holes, although there are a few tricks that a worth knowing before teeing off on a few. The greens are tough but puttable. Apparently the Bahia course has impossible and frustrating greens. In mid-February the course was not crowded, and I played a round in just under four hours, and another in just over three hours. Everyone is very nice, allowing faster groups to play through, and letting everyone go at their own pace.
Skrevet 15. februar 2020
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AFerb_84
London, UK46 bidrag
5,0 av 5 bobler
okt. 2019 • Alene
Two good courses. Pacifico is scenic and enough of a challenge. Bahía a little tighter and with trickier greens for those not just looking for enjoyable resort golf...

The staff are brilliant - so helpful and friendly - and they look after you on and off the course with courtesy and humour.

The recently renovated practice area is very good - always nice to hit off real turf and the guys are on hand to clean your clubs and provide water and cold towels.

It’s not cheap but the packages can make it reasonable if you are planning to play more than once - with the bonus of having practice area access and the ability to play 18/27/36 etc. on the days you choose to play...

There are coffee and pastries in the morning - handy if you skip your hotel breakfast to get out before it heats up... they keep you well stocked with free water in the cart (and a free smoothie at the turn) and the drinks cart is always around and can be called to your cart if you need something.

Clubhouse is great for a beer after the round and there is a proper half-way house for those that want it.

Tees, a ball marker and pitch mark repairer are all in the cart too.

A well run operation.
Skrevet 10. oktober 2019
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Donjo_ms
Bend Oregon25 bidrag
4,0 av 5 bobler
sep. 2019 • Par
Played Bahia today with my wife. Great views, great course, but be advised, its very, very challenging... you will seldom have a flat lie from the fairway, and the greens are undulating (severe understatement) im a 17, and hit 12 of 13 fairways and shot 94 from whites... recommend this course for 10 or less handicap. Service, course conditions and pace of play were superb. Have fun with it if your 50 yard in game is superb... otherwise go enjoy pacifico...
Skrevet 6. september 2019
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Flyby0161
Boca Raton, FL1 382 bidrag
5,0 av 5 bobler
sep. 2019 • Alene
Great courses, Pacifico is less challenging, more of an scenic play nestled with plenty of ocean views. Bahía is much more challenging with undulating greens. The staff is always friendly, the course has a fast play. Hole 3B is a scenic gem - subject play to tides.
Skrevet 6. september 2019
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